Natey & Katy: At the Movies
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Natey & Katy: At the Movies
Classic Laughter
Ever wondered why "Some Like It Hot" remains a comedy classic after all these years? Prepare yourself for a laughter-filled episode as Katy and I celebrate hitting over 2,500 downloads with a fun and nostalgic look at this 1959 masterpiece. We start with Katy's hilarious guilty pleasure confession of indulging in a Cookout tray, setting the tone for our lively discussion. We then share our thoughts on Marilyn Monroe's iconic performance and how she epitomized the "dumb blonde" stereotype, while I can't help but gush over Jack Lemmon's comedic brilliance. From the controversial modern takes on the engagement proposal scene to Tony Curtis’s humorously spot-on Cary Grant impression, our conversation offers fresh insights and plenty of reasons why this film continues to captivate audiences.
Additionally, we go behind the scenes of "Some Like It Hot," shedding light on the various challenges faced during its production, including Monroe's struggles with punctuality and addiction. This episode promises an entertaining mix of humor, analysis, and behind-the-scenes stories that will leave you eager for more.
Hello everyone and welcome to a brand new episode of Nadie and Katie at the Movies. I am your host, nathan aka Nadie, of course, and with me on today's episode is my good friend Katie. Hi Katie, how are you?
Speaker 2:I'm so good, nathan. Don't tell anyone else but I am totally eating a cookout tray in my car as a splurge. Nothing is better than a cookout tray. Cajun fries and small other shout out to cookout. The best milkshake that they have is Oreo mint Heath. Don't knock until you try it.
Speaker 1:So I don't know the fact that you told me not to tell anybody. I don't know if that's like a knock on our show, that you think no one's listening, so no one's going to know that you're eating cookout because we have no listeners, which is not true because, as of this episode, we have made it past 2,500 downloads of our show Whoop, whoop.
Speaker 1:We could not have made it without you, the listener. And another great way for us to keep on going with those downloads is for, if you're listening right now, share the show as soon as it's done, to get us even higher and higher and higher, because I think the next goal is like 5 000.
Speaker 2:So that would be awesome. Yeah, for sure, and I'm excited about this episode, nathan, because it's a movie that I really enjoy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's another classic. I'm loving that so far. We watched the Kid last episode and we're watching another classic, and so this is really fun to watch. I'm going to say the word again Classic movies. So let's get right into it. We're going to be talking about Some Like it Hot Before we can talk about our likes and dislikes. I got to go over the synopsis. After two male musicians witness a mob hit, they flee the state in an all-female band disguised as women. But further complications set in Some Like it Hot stars Marilyn Monroe, tony Curtis, jack Lemmon and Joe E Brown. So this movie came out in a time where Marilyn Monroe was popular. She was a sex symbol. She was all the rage. It came out in 1959. So, katie, I remember last episode you were talking about. One reason you were really excited about this movie is because you had never seen Marilyn Monroe act before in a movie. So what did you think of her performance?
Speaker 2:She was exactly like I pictured. I guess, when you talk about sex symbol and, mr President and I think that's the only like I've only seen, basically spoofs of her. But then watching her in this movie, you're like, oh yeah, that's very spot on that's. She talks very so and sultry, she's definitely not afraid to show off her body and her main role in the movie is kind of dumb blonde sexy girl that the both the men are trying to get, get with. And then I also researched there was a moment where it looked like her skirt was about to fly up and I was like, oh, that's the iconic thing people talk about, but I think that had come in a movie before this one and it was almost just more like an ode to it.
Speaker 2:So I'm sure there's all kind of other things being a classic comedy that we miss out on. You know where the joke would have landed differently if we knew, with references. But I liked it, I thought it was good. Did you like her role in this? Do you feel like she was the best? Who was the best actor in your opinion?
Speaker 1:I mean, I I love jackmon. I thought he was really good in this movie. He was. He was very funny, a lot of, a lot of very funny parts in this movie. Jack Lemmon plays Jerry R Daphne in this film. He's the one that kind of they play a lot a big joke on the fact that again, they're both dressed up as women and so these male characters find them attractive, which is kind of funny because they're obviously men and jack lemon's character gets with joey brown's character, osgood fielding, and I kind of want to know what you so.
Speaker 1:Okay, here's the big thing about this movie. This movie is one of those movies that people look at now in today's society, in today's context, and they try to make it fit with today's society and how they feel. Like that. This movie is trying to promote a modern day message and this may be me getting on a soapbox that some people may not want me to get on, but I think it's important to talk about it with this film in particular, because again people will take this movie and put a message on it that most likely was not the intention of the film.
Speaker 1:It's being played as one big joke joke the fact that they are dressed up as women. It's, it's, it's the underlying joke of the whole film now, but I will say there is a moment where it gets to a place where and and I I don't know if you know what I'm talking about, katie, but it's the part with jack lemon's character and joey brown's character and his character kind of proposes to daphne and daphne, or jerry, is actually considering it. So what did you think of that whole scene?
Speaker 2:because I, I honestly didn't know what to think of it I was kind of surprised that it was, you know, the insinuation that they were going to actually get engaged. I, I didn't know. I was like, wait, is this? Am I in a different decade, like? Or is he about to say, like, I like men and this works out? And I thought, wait a minute, this is supposed to be in the twenties and it was filmed in the fifties, probably not.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, there was a moment where I literally he did such a great job in his role, kind of dressed in drag, but I was literally googling, like, was john like jack lennon? Like, was he gay? Did he like to do drag because he was so good at it? So yeah, and to your point, it was so ridiculous at the time the idea that men would dress up as women, as hilarious, and I think it was funny. Like I won't take away from that. It was very funny, especially because all the jokes back and forth of basically all the things men do that are sexist, it kind of highlights them and makes fun of them, of like, look, this is how you treat women all the time. Now, how does it feel to be treated that way? So I liked that and Nathan, my whole, like my initial thought when I and I had no idea what this movie is about, had no idea what this movie is about.
Speaker 1:When I first saw them dressed in drag my first thought was, oh, white chicks and another movie. It kind of solicits and this movie is not as popular as white chicks was. But sorority boys I don't know if you've ever seen that movie, ever heard of that movie. Michael rosenbaum from smallville is in it and two other guys I can't remember their names, but they they get like accused of embezzlement for their fraternity and so I guess to get back into the college they dress up as women and join the sorority and the whole premise of the movie is that they learn the hardships of women and stuff like that and so kind of like what you were saying, with Some Like it Hot.
Speaker 1:It kind of does that a little bit. You know it picks on the fact that you know women have it hard when it comes to they. They kind of make a joke about at the beginning with Jack, when they're first wearing the dress and the high heels, how hard it is to walk in them and how the dresses are easier to get a little draft, you know with from the wind and all that stuff. So they make fun of it a little bit. But as much as I did enjoy it. I just am hesitant to I don't know how to say it without sounding how most people probably think I sound anyway.
Speaker 2:I thought that the jokes were very funny. I thought it was hilarious All the gags that they did. Their voices were very good. Obviously, like you said, they're not convincing women, so it's kind of this running funny comedy gag that they're truly fooling everyone that they're women. But I thought this movie was very funny.
Speaker 2:I thought there was a lot of good callbacks, a lot of like repeated lines and jokes. I thought that was very funny. I actually looked up. They kept making references to one of the guys having type o blood and I was like, oh, is that some kind of like deck? Like is that a time joke? Like is that something of the times? Is there some kind of like inside joke there? And no, there wasn't. It was just random and weird. But I think it just was funny because it kept being repeated. And I loved just that humor that we talked about in the kid, that that humor that you and I used when we did skits. It felt a lot. You know there was some chase scenes, just very silly, very, very silly, silly stuff, but without being too silly. You know, some might argue the movie's a little long, like a premise is just so silly, so did you need to make the movie as long as it was, but I feel like there was some witty dialogue that really kept me entertained the whole time.
Speaker 1:I like this movie a lot so was there anything about it that you didn't like?
Speaker 2:I probably the maryland monroe thing. You're like, oh, she's over the top, but if it's a comedy I think she's supposed to be. I don't know if that's a bad thing. And then again, I think there was some parts that got a little slow, but the overall storyline loved. I liked the ending, I liked the clever lines. I might watch it again. I think and yeah, I thought everyone the chemistry was great, because you have to have good chemistry between the two guys and good chemistry, obviously, between them each and Marilyn Monroe, because initially they're both kind of pining for her. So I don't think I had any negatives. Really, I mean, it sounds like you might see.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing. My negative isn't so much about the movie itself. It's kind of like what I mentioned before. I feel like it's one of those films that people look at this. They look at the premise and they'll automatically try to snatch it and be like see, see. Even back then it was seen this way, and my thing is, the fact that they're dressed up as women is a joke in the whole film. It's not to be taken seriously, and so I feel like there are people out there that'll see a movie like this and again try to push a message on it. That was not the original intention of the film itself.
Speaker 2:I think this movie I'm not someone that's in the, I don't personally have have a strong feeling about what is and isn't offensive for people in the trans community, because I'm not personally trans, I don't want to speak for anyone that actually is in that community, but like I would assume that they would think this is somewhat offensive.
Speaker 2:You know it's making fun of it, it's saying like, oh, dressing him as a woman, if you're a man, is just silly and ridiculous and it's comedy, whereas maybe today we would say it's not comedy, it's someone's real life and they really genuinely do want to dress that way.
Speaker 2:So in the same way, you know, I used to do a ministry, an outreach ministry, and I won't name the organization, but you know they actually had to make a rule banning cross-dressing because it became such a hot button issue. You know, whereas before a lot of the skits at camp would be, you know, part of the thing was so funny was this youth leader guy who's you know some burly 40 year old youth leader would be like, come out in a skirt and it was hilarious. And all the football players are just cracking up because it's like here's my coach or here's my youth leader dressed, you know, in a skirt it's very funny, whereas, yeah, today I don't think that's's it's not considered funny. It would be me be considered offensive and poking fun at that community. So I do think it is a different time and even same with white chicks. Like I would argue that if white chicks had come out today it would not land.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and especially going back to some like there's that moment where they first are starting to again be dressed as women and Jack Lemmon's character, obviously, is attracted to marilyn morose character and tony curtis's character says, just keep on repeating to yourself you're a woman, you're a woman, you're a woman, right. And then there's, and then there's the part where he is talking about being uh, engaged to joey brown's character and tony kernis terslam says, okay, just just repeat this you're a boy, you're a boy, you're a boy. So it's like. It's like these things that are like, so polarizing in quotation marks today, were jokes back in the 50s, and so that that's why I, as much as I enjoyed the movie, as much as I laughed at it, I I again.
Speaker 1:It's one of those movies that people are going to try to latch on to if, if they know about it. I mean, this is a classic movie that most people probably aren't even familiar with, but people who are familiar with it might try to take it again and make it something that it wasn't intended to be. In my opinion it wasn't intended to be. So that is some like it hot. Do you like it hot? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh. Well, okay, this is not a negative, but my last comment on the movie is just, I guess, surprise. I don't know a lot of period pieces very well. Like I couldn't tell you, this movie is from the fifties, this movie was made in the sixties and although I did teach history, I don't have a perfect understanding of here's where we were as a society when it comes to sex at this stage in life. You know, everyone knows, the 70s were very about love and free love, but in terms of 50s, like to me, I actually was surprised at the sensualness, the crude jokes. I felt like it didn't bother me necessarily, but to me it felt very crude for a 50s movie. It felt very crude for a 50s movie. And again, there was like multiple. There was a five minute long scene where Marilyn Monroe's character is basically trying to seduce the male character and she just keeps making out with him over and over and over again, laying on top of him. I was just very shocked that that made it in a movie made in the 50s.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, but again it's Marilyn Monroe and I think she was used for that in a lot of the films that she made.
Speaker 1:And just a little bit behind the scenes stuff, before we get to our ratings.
Speaker 1:Did you know that people had a terrible time working with Marilyn Monroe because she would either arrive really late on the set or she would do a terrible job at memorizing her lines, her lines? There's actually a scene in the movie where she goes into daphne and josephine's the male characters, well, women, personas their room and is looking for a bottle of gin, and so she goes through the dresser and you don't see her say this line because in real life she couldn't get the line right and so they had to keep on doing shot after shot after shot, until eventually. A lot of people think they just recorded her saying it and just put it in the film afterwards because she did such a terrible job and apparently that's what she was known for. This isn't the only movie that people had a hard time and um, so it was kind of sad. I mean, who knows it could have, who knows it could have been because of drugs, it could have been because of alcohol, because she had a really rough life outside of film and so I did learn that.
Speaker 2:I don't know how accurate that was, but, to your point, I did read something that said she was pretty deeply addicted to pills by that point already, and you know the author of the article I read was saying hey, if you look hard, you can definitely see it in her eyes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's really sad, but let's go ahead and review Some Like it Hot, this classic 1950s movie Katie. What would you give Some Like it Hot out of our rating system?
Speaker 2:You know I love a good comedy and it definitely made me laugh. But I think it would have meant a lot more had I seen it in its time period and really, truly understood the satire. So I'm going to give it a five.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, I'm going to give it a 4.5 because, again, as much as I liked it, I just I don't know how I ultimately feel about it. And also, the reason I get a four, a 4.5, is because Tony Curtis does a really good Cary Grant impression and I don't know if you know who Cary Grant is. Hopefully some of our listeners do. He's another classic actor and Tony Curtis tried the Cary Grant voice out while they were filming and thankfully the director liked it because he thought it was funny. And then carrie grant saw the movie and he was like hey, I don't talk like that jokingly, because obviously, yes, carrie grant did talk like how tony kuris does in the movie. So that is some like it.
Speaker 1:Hot, it is a classic. Go watch it and view it the way it was meant to be viewed as a comedy, not a society piece. It's a comedy. But we're moving on to september. This is the last movie of august. Crazy that this month is already over. I've started back school. Students are in the air. I'm not throwing students, but anyway, hold on. They shouldn't. They should not be in the air.
Speaker 2:I'm not throwing students, but anyway, hold on, they should. They should not be in the air.
Speaker 1:They should not be in the air so we're going to september and the first movie of september is take a listen, miss, I'm lieutenant exley, I'm sorry to have to ask you this.
Speaker 2:I need to know what time they left you get her to the hospital.
Speaker 1:I realize this is difficult.
Speaker 2:Give you a career, arrest, leave her alone. A naked guy with a gun. You expect anyone to believe that? Get away from me. How's it gonna look in your report? It'll look like justice. That's what the man got Justice. You don't know the meaning of the word? Yeah Well, you think it means getting your picture in the paper. Why don't you go after criminals for a change, instead of cops?
Speaker 1:Stensland got what he deserved, and so will you. So hopefully you didn't think that the movie was titled. Take a listen, because it's not. It's actually la confidential, a film noir movie starring guy pierce russell crowe and kevin spacey.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's gonna be a good one.
Speaker 1:Never, I think, I've heard of it, never seen it yeah, I'm pretty excited talking about it because it is a classic film noir. And, of course, hold on, let me get my quote. Let me get my quote. Well, the thing is, osgood, I'm a man. Well, nobody's perfect.
