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Saw Patrol: Between Paw Patrol Superpowers and Saw's Twisted Morality

Natey & Katy: At the Movies Season 3 Episode 36

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Ever wonder what a child has to say about the new Paw Patrol movie? Or perhaps you're aching for a comprehensive discussion about the infamous Saw movie franchise? Then buckle up, listeners, because this episode has it all! Our youngest critic, Ben, shares his thoughts on the pups' superpowers, his favorite character Marshall and the villain of the movie. The adults aren't left out as we also discuss the film's storyline, humor, and even speculate about a third movie featuring Santa Claus!

Moving along, we shift gears and plunge headfirst into the gripping world of Saw. From its interconnected narratives to the morality of the victims, we dissect every bit in a thrilling conversation. Katy, one of our critics, talks about her reasons for drawing the line after the second movie, while Judson and I confess our unflinching loyalty to the entire series. We also delve into Tobin Bell's return to the franchise and the cinematic feel of the latest chapter.

While we give it a pretty high rating, we advise that it's best suited for Saw fanatics. Listen in to find out why this latest installment is a must-watch for fans of the series. With our youngest critic, Ben, and the rest of the Harrington family, we promise an engaging discussion, filled with laughs, debates, and a whole lot of movie magic!

Speaker 1:

One's a movie buff. One watches movies, just enough. Together, fun will be had by all. This is Nady and Katie at the Movies. Hello, I wanna play a game.

Speaker 3:

I'm just kidding. Hello everyone, welcome to a brand new episode of Nady and Katie at the Movies. I'm your host, nathan aka Nady, of course, and with me is a plethora of people for today's episode, because it's the episode we've all been waiting for.

Speaker 4:

Can I do it?

Speaker 3:

Can I talk to that? My daughter is here. Oh yeah, and we also have Katie.

Speaker 4:

Oh, and we have my son. Can you tell me your name, ben? And we have Daddy, aka Ben Sr, ben Sr. We're excited we got the whole Harrington family here today to join. And, ben, what are we gonna talk about? Paw Patrol, that's right. And what are you gonna talk about, mr Nathan?

Speaker 3:

Well, before we can talk about Paw Patrol, we gotta go over the synipsis.

Speaker 1:

A magical meteor crash, lands in a venture city and gives the Paw Patrol pups, superpowers, transforming them into the mighty pups.

Speaker 3:

And then we have the Paw Patrol the mighty movie stars Sky Chase, marshall Liberty, rocky Zuma, rubble Ryder, tot, mini, mano and Victoria Vance, the mad scientist, and also Mayor Humdinger and a bunch of other people that you probably don't know from the show. And then we have the Paw Patrol the mighty movie is based on the popular TV show Paw Patrol. It is the sequel to Paw Patrol the movie, and I'm gonna let the family talk about it, even though I did go see this by myself in a movie theater with nobody else in the theater, I made sure it was a theater that was empty.

Speaker 4:

Well, Ben, what were you?

Speaker 2:

just telling me Well, we didn't have any superpowers.

Speaker 4:

Oh, so spoilers episode. Yeah, liberty did not have any. Well, ben, what did you think of the movie? It was pretty good. Yeah, I liked the part where she was trying to find her ring.

Speaker 2:

Her crystal yeah.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, she was looking all over for her crystal. Yeah, who is your favorite Paw Patrol? Pup, marshall, marshall, what?

Speaker 1:

do you like about Marshall? I like the bad guy.

Speaker 4:

That's right. And he's fire. What do you want to be when you grow up? A fire fighter? Oh, that's perfect, just like Marshall. And what about you, dad? Did you like the Paw Patrol movie?

Speaker 5:

Yeah, it was riveting.

Speaker 4:

He says that. But listen, I asked him to get some more water at one point because the Paw Patrol is so salty, and he looked at me like I have to miss some of this, Are you sure?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I can be too Too sure Be plots moments could happen.

Speaker 4:

That's true and I also liked it, but in like a kid movie kind of way. I don't know that I laughed at any of the jokes necessary. Like. I maybe smiled at a part or two. So that's my review. If I'm being honest, Nathan, what did you think as an adult going without kids?

Speaker 3:

I looked at it as a movie, even though, yes, it is a kid's movie. They tricked me at the beginning because they had a little short film before the main movie with Dora the Explorer. I thought it was going to be a crossover, which I thought have been really cool if they crossed over Dora the Explorer. That's exactly what I was thinking. When they went right to the Paw Patrol movie, I was like what is it the Paw Patrol movie? Yeah, they tricked me. It was a Paw Patrol movie with a fix. That's what it was.

Speaker 4:

The Paw Patrol movie. That's true, but Ben.

Speaker 3:

Ben, didn't you want Dora the Explorer to be with Paw Patrol?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, ben kept asking where's the Paw Patrol. Where's the Paw Patrol? Because they definitely fool you at the beginning. Just to heads up for anyone that hasn't seen it yet it's great. I mean, take your kids for sure, it's definitely worth it. It's the only cartoon coming out anytime soon that I think is worth seeing, definitely shouldn't go solo. Don't go solo. That'd be a week, right, nathan?

Speaker 3:

Well, yeah, they had like at the beginning, before the movie starts, they were like, okay, everybody let out one big bark before the movie starts, and I didn't do that. Santa Claus might be in the movie, maybe he'll be in the third one. Santa Claus might be in the third one. So my big question is did Ben pay attention to the entire movie?

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah, I mean I feel like I'm answering for you, Ben. I feel like he understood the plot, Like that's one big thing is like my son's two and a half and I feel like he tracked along with the plot. So I think that's a big positive.

Speaker 5:

Yeah. Is that like. Well, once you hit him with the question, yeah, see, if he remembers movie trivia who was the bad?

Speaker 3:

man, what superpower did sky have?

Speaker 4:

I don't know.

Speaker 3:

I guess pay attention as much as you thought.

Speaker 5:

Okay, okay, that was a tough one. How?

Speaker 4:

about you.

Speaker 5:

Nate let off with who was the bad guy and Ben said he didn't know.

Speaker 4:

I think we're Well, what about Ben? Which Paw Patrol had firepower? The Marshall one.

Speaker 3:

The Marshall did, yeah, yeah he said that at the beginning of the episode. That's not fair. Who?

Speaker 4:

was super fast. I don't know who was the one that could turn into water.

Speaker 3:

It was Zuma.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, nobody really liked Zuma, though.

Speaker 3:

Which I thought if anyone should move fast, it should be Zuma, because his name's Zuma, oh my, Also confused.

Speaker 4:

Chase makes sense because he chases people. He makes fire Like it should not make fire.

Speaker 3:

He should have been the water person. All right, it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 4:

Okay well, so yeah, barring the reality, like the fact that there's a time at the beginning of the movie and immediately they're like let's call Paw Patrol, you know, like we just have to bar reality obviously. I saw some people reviewing it. They were like it's unrealistic. This kid's 10 years old, where are his parents? Why are dogs in charge? And you're like it's a child's movie, like of course they want the kid and dogs to be in charge. But yes, I was impressed with, I felt like it was reachable for as young as maybe two years old. So that was cool. Scott I mean Ben was like zeroed in the whole movie and he talks about it when we got home.

Speaker 3:

I thought it was fun. I mean, again, I was in a movie theater by myself, so at first I was like sitting really far away and so I moved seats so as closer, and at that point that's when it started getting interesting, with Skye and her backstory and how you know ever was. She's always been looked at really small. It was kind of like your typical, like just basic storyline.

Speaker 4:

I love that it focused on Skye. You know they could have gone with Chase or Rubble, the kind of more favorite favorites, but I really appreciate Skye because I don't know a lot about her. I liked that we focused on her. And Ben, was there any parts that you didn't like? Yeah, what did you not like? I didn't like the bad girl. Yeah, the mad Bad girl. Yeah, yeah, why didn't you like her?

Speaker 2:

Because she's so. Skye's crystal that's true, she's.

Speaker 4:

So Skye's crystal yeah, she was mean I don't like her. Yeah, and I you know what. I didn't like her either, but I did like that they tried to redeem her, like Skye tried to kind of turn her good. I actually like that she doesn't turn good. I kind of like that, stayed about that, yeah.

Speaker 3:

I'm glad they didn't go that route, because I thought they were going to and I was like, oh, come on, I know it's a kids movie, but don't go that typical route. And they didn't. And of course Paul patrol saved the day. Spoiler alert I did think it was kind of epic with the meteors at the end, with Skye, and having to like single-handedly destroy all those meteors. I thought that was kind of cool.

Speaker 4:

And Nathan just said what his favorite part was. Tell them what your favorite part was. I thought it was the same thing Nathan said. You told me it was when she stopped the big rock.

Speaker 4:

I actually teared up. I cried a few times when they you know, because, like, when she's, when she's going towards it, she like has a flashback moment of like being like abandoned in the big in the barn. I definitely teared up, which, okay, I have to say a dislike. I think it's a good thing. I definitely teared up, which, okay, I had to say dislike. For me it was, although I said it's for two year olds, like if you're really pink, like it's a two year old, just doesn't understand the, the disaster. But it's going to have a little bit more of it. For Paul patrol Like imagining like a tire meteor shower, just like completely taking out a whole town, not to mention the beginning where it's like they lock these people in a trailer and they're going to like burn them alive, like that feels a little bit more of it.

Speaker 3:

Well, this movie was ready PG and that's probably why you know some of the scary action moments. Overall, I thought it was a pretty safe kids movie. I don't know if Anna would have been able to handle it just because it opens with a music video and then it has a door of the explorer short and then it goes into the movie. So I thought that was kind of redundant and went on a little too long. But, like I said, it was a cute movie. It's a kids movie, so you can't really rate it too harshly. So, speaking of ratings, let's go ahead and rate this thing. Ben, what would you give the Paul patrol movie? One or six stars.

Speaker 4:

Oh, this one, this many Five, yeah, wow, that's a pretty high rating that's pretty strong Katie.

Speaker 3:

what would you give Paul patrol the mighty movie? Well, I'd give it a try.

Speaker 4:

This is tough I'm supposed to rate it like for my child or rate it for me. For me it's like a two or a one. Like I don't want to watch this movie but for what I needed it to do? Did I need it? To entertain my son, make him excited. He immediately wanted to listen to the songs from the movie. So if I'm rating as a parent, I would give it probably a five.

Speaker 4:

The only reason I take a point off would be Scott and I agreed that there's a few moments where they break rules and they don't really get addressed. Like Sky doesn't listen to what she's being told to do and she benefits from that. So like we didn't really love that. But I do like the moral idea of what was it? We basically as if you're small, kind of like David and Goliath, we did appreciate that part of the story. I think they went to pervert, like they could have done potty humor. I feel like they didn't do a ton of potty humor, which is also nice and of course Rubble is. I think Ben thought it was kind of funny. What did you think, babe?

Speaker 2:

Overall, Pretty good.

Speaker 1:

I cannot open this.

Speaker 3:

Strong three, a solid three, okay, okay. Well, I and I myself, I myself, would rate it a solid three as well. I don't think it's a one, I don't think it's a two, because I think it was entertaining, even for an adult, and I thought the ending was kind of epic for a kid's movie. So I'm going to give it a solid three as well. So that is Paul Patrol the mighty movie, the first of the two movies that we'll be talking about this episode, and so in just a little bit, jetson and I will be talking about Salton. That's right, the 10th movie in the salt franchise that Ben should never, ever, ever watch, even though I wish Scott would watch it, because he's a medical person and I would love to hear what he thinks about some of the stuff that happens in this movie.

Speaker 4:

Oh, the medical side.

Speaker 3:

We'll be right back after this short break.

Speaker 5:

When the war started, they protected me. They better care of me than humans would have.

Speaker 1:

And our people Maya it's just programming. Ten years ago today, the artificial intelligence created to protect us detonated a nuclear warhead in Los Angeles. This is a fight for our very existence.

Speaker 2:

Sergeant Taylor, we are this close to winning the war. The AI are developing a super weapon. Retrieve it or they win.

Speaker 1:

Did you locate the weapon? Yeah, she's the key. Are you going to heaven?

Speaker 2:

No, you gotta be a good person to go to heaven.

Speaker 1:

So we're the same, we can't go to heaven, because you're not good.

Speaker 5:

And I'm not a person.

Speaker 1:

Do you have anything to do with the thing, guys? She looks like a little girl now, but she's growing. Whoever has that kid wins the war you said you won. Huh. What do you want, sweetie? For robots to be free? Oh, we don't have that in the fridge. How about ice cream?

Speaker 3:

And welcome back. So that was the trailer for the movie the Creator, which will be the movie that Katie and I will be reviewing next episode. But before we can get to that, we've got to talk about the second movie of the Saul Patrol episode, and that is Saul 10. So Judson and I went to go see this, and joining me now is Judson. What's up, buddy?

Speaker 2:

Wanna play a game.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so we'll be talking about Saul 10, the 10th movie and the Saul franchise. But if you're following along and you've read about this movie already, then you know that this movie should have basically been Saul 1.5. But before we talk about it, we have to go over the synopsis.

Speaker 1:

A sick and desperate John travels to Mexico for a risky and experimental medical procedure in hopes of a miracle cure for his cancer, only to discover the entire operation is a scam to defraud the most vulnerable, saul 10 stars Tobin Bell, shawnee Smith and Sinova Makadi Land.

Speaker 3:

I don't even know who she plays. This is the first film after the abysmal spiral from the book of Saul starring Chris Rock. I guess they made a really good choice about bringing Tobin Bell back as Jigsaw Judson. Have you seen every single Saul movie?

Speaker 2:

I've seen the first like three or four, and I remember really enjoying the first one when I was young and impressionable. And then I did a little binge fest for the first few and I really enjoyed two and three and it kind of felt on a little decline in quality that, or at least in the very least of my enjoyment. And then when I hit five I was just kind of like over it in a way.

Speaker 2:

So I kind of stopped off there. I didn't watch the spin off with the Chris Rock spin off. No, thank you. And to be honest with you, if it wasn't for the invite from one native himself, I probably would not have seen this, at the very least in theaters. But yeah, so that's what. That's my history with it.

Speaker 3:

And so, katie, have you ever seen any of the Saw movies?

Speaker 4:

I actually have and I did not see this one because I refuse, and it's the I saw like the second one, and it's the reason I'll never see one again. It's morbid and disturbing and I remember questioning all my Christian friends at the time being like this was such a big craze. I don't think it's wrong to go watch them, but I did feel like at the time it was like it's pretty dark, pretty dark stuff.

Speaker 3:

It's funny you say that because my first experience with the very first saw movie was in the boys dormitory at the Christian school that I went to, and it was just a bunch of guys watching this movie. I had never seen it before and everyone around me had seen it, and so when the ending happened, I'm the only one who's like legitimately freaking out because of how epic the ending from the first one was. So that's interesting to hear what we've all seen. I've actually seen every single Saw movie, and so I am a big fan of how these movies tie all together. That's what's always intrigued me about these movies, and that's legitimately. The only reason I continue to go see these movies is to see how they all connect together.

Speaker 3:

I know a lot of people go see it for the gore. I'm not a big gore fan. As shocking as that is the fact that I've seen all these movies. I'm not a I'm not a big fan of the gore, but this movie does deliver on the gore, and so we'll get right into our likes and dislikes of Saw 10. So, jetson, what would you say is one of your likes for this movie?

Speaker 2:

I think the big glaring one is Tobin Bell truly brings something special to the franchise. I haven't seen Spiral, what it was called, but I remember that being like a big shot in the foot of like what are you doing? And it just goes to show how synonymous he is to it. So the fact that he's back and I'm really glad it's like centric around his character and I haven't seen the full franchise so I can't really attest but like this one especially is very in the favor of Jigsaw and you know the stuff is justifiably that he does is very much justifiable off the top of my head. That for sure is one that I really appreciate.

Speaker 2:

And then one more big one that I'll say off the top is all of these people are justifiable victims, you know. There's some of them where you I would see in the franchise where I'm like yeah, that was bad, that was slimy, but that wasn't like rip your scalp off, kind of awful, you know worthy. And I guess in a way you can ask yourself are any of these worth the you know rip your scalp off for the lack of a better trap, at least for this one. Like these are truly awful people, you know, and they make that very clear from the jump. So when you see all these, there is that satisfaction of if they die. It's like, yeah, you kind of deserve it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

It's kind of awful to say that out loud and, you know, not be put on a watch list or anything like that, but the morality in the favors line up on both ends and that's very satisfying. So those are the two off the top of my head.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think my biggest like is obvious, like you said, tobin Bell coming back as Jigsaw. I said before, I think they realized after spiral that people care about the character of Jigsaw and if you make a movie that's supposed to be taking place in the same universe but you only like mention him by name once, no one's really going to care. And so they brought him back. He was fantastic. The previous Saw movies have never been known for their great acting. I thought he did a fantastic job as John Kramer and Jigsaw because he went by John Kramer most of this film. So you got to see the John Kramer side of Jigsaw as opposed to just Jigsaw putting people into these traps, and I loved it. I loved it. In our quick reaction video I said that this one reminded me of an actual movie and I don't know why. I guess is because of the way it was shot. It felt more cinematic, the acting felt more real as opposed to the other ones and I think because it was so focused on John Kramer. And Tobin Bell is not a bad actor and he was given a lot more to do with the character. That's why he's like my biggest highlight of this film and the storyline was pretty compelling.

Speaker 3:

I remember seeing the trailer and not realizing how much of a scam what he was going for ends up being. I thought at least they did something to help with his tumor in his brain. But then you go see the film and spoilers Sorry. They legitimately do absolutely nothing to help him. Like they even go as far as faking shaving off his head before they do this operation. Like they don't even do that, and so the fact that this comes off as a complete scam took me by big surprise and gave even more like you said, jetson gave even more of a reason for him to, I guess, seek revenge on these people, which kind of goes into my dislikes, because if you watch the previous saw movies, jigsaw never goes after people because of anything they've really done to him.

Speaker 3:

He seeks people out that have not value their lives or have taken advantage of the things that they have. I don't know how I felt about this one being so much of a revenge thing for Jigsaw, because to me it kind of goes against what the character has been up into that point and I know it's still like early on in his Jigsaw-ness because they again, this takes place almost right after the first one, and so he's still kind of learning how to do what he does. Did you notice that Jetson at all, or were you conflicted by that? Because I know you said you saw these victims as justifiable victims, but do you think that kind of goes against what he was supposed to be standing for in the previous films?

Speaker 2:

I wonder if, because this is kind of a 1.5, does this make him a little more lenient towards going after something personal, since it might be a little earlier in his career of being Jigsaw versus maybe he quote unquote grows up throughout the series and he realizes oh, there's a higher meaning to this and I actually have to be teaching these people how to value their life.

Speaker 2:

Maybe it's I don't know. That's my theory while you're talking about it, because I haven't thought much about it being personal versus questioning the morality or not morality, but, like you know, like the value of your life and that kind of stuff. That's my thought on that. But I'm the same note with this being the 10th movie in the franchise and the troops they're having to jump through to connect stories and keep the franchise going. Essentially, I think that this is just the best that we can get. For them to continue the series in this way is like, well, it's got to be something personal. Those are my thoughts on it. I mean, truthfully speaking, I know the big appeal to what makes saw saw is people are going to come to see creative ways to split people's heads open in this and that, and and that goes to my negative.

Speaker 4:

I don't have much to say. I don't, you know again, I didn't see the movie so I probably shouldn't even join in the rest of this conversation but the violence, it's just like I don't understand people's desire for that. Like you know, you got to know Scott, I brought Scott over here. Like I don't understand what the appeal is for Gore Scott. Is that something that's actually wrong with people if they want to see carnage, is that a problem? Why do we want that?

Speaker 5:

I don't pretend to be able to comment on that, oh.

Speaker 4:

I'd like to know, though was there anything in the movie that Nathan I know you kind of joke about with Scott has a medical background? Was there anything that you were questioning that you'd like to ask, like, if it's possible?

Speaker 3:

There's one trap in particular where he has this guy use a operating tool to extract a piece of his brain, essentially, and dissolve it. I don't even know if, like you could take I mean, obviously you can take some of your brain out and you could kind of survive, because I know lobotomies they take a section of the brain but you basically become a vegetable.

Speaker 5:

Craniotomies are not an uncommon procedure, especially if you've got something like a brain bleed to help decompress. Oftentimes they're going to cut out a little bit of the actual skull, take that off so that they can get access to that space and then decompress it, whether that be removing blood. If they have something like a tumor, that's amenable to resection, meaning that it's going to be close enough to the surface that I can actually access it without digging up everything that's around it.

Speaker 3:

Funny, you say that about cutting out a section of the skull because they end up doing that in Sol 3. So I don't know if that like gives Jigsaw the idea of doing that in the third one.

Speaker 4:

Are you telling me that in the movie the person is expecting to do that on themselves?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and so that's. I guess that's the basic question. Would you be able to do that on yourself?

Speaker 5:

No, I was struggling to poke a single hole in myself and run a suture through.

Speaker 3:

That's the thing. Like he was able to take like a little piece of his brain out and I'm just like there's no way. There's no way a person would be able to do that. But he ends up. I mean he ends up like losing the game and dying. That was probably the biggest one that I was like man. I wish Scott could have at least seen that one scene.

Speaker 3:

I know Justin was saying that that's why some people go see these movies, to see what creative ways they can have people die. It's kind of like the final destination movies. Those movies didn't really become about story, they just became about how can we kill people? That's why those movies kind of lost interest for me. The Saul movies still have an interest for me, just because the storyline has nothing to do with the creative ways of killing people.

Speaker 3:

There is one thing we didn't talk about the cameos in this movie. They kind of revealed one in the trailer, so this isn't a spoiler. Amanda does return. She actually died at the end of the third one along with Jigsaw, and so this kind of shows you how she starts getting a little antsy about what she's doing and kind of foreshadows what happens to her in the franchise. But I remember when they first revealed her I was like man, because this is supposed to take place in the past. She has not aged well, and it shows, and obviously this movie didn't have the budget to de-age anybody, and so that was a factor. How did you feel about the return of Amanda? And then we'll talk about the other cameo that no one was expecting.

Speaker 2:

I didn't feel anything in that moment. If they would have revealed any face ever, I would have been like all right, I don't know, maybe I'm not as close to the franchise to get a pop for that. You're right. I'm certain that there's not the budgeting to do the de-aging, and there was going to be an uproar if they tried to recast that character or something like that. For one, I joked that the biggest saw trap was not anything we saw in the movie, but the actual. The biggest saw trap was putting her in that wig and putting her in that little boy George fit and putting her on camera and doing her so dirty like that. There's no escape to that. That's the worst trap. Jokes aside, though, it was a really bad wig, it was not the best outfit and you have this really mature, defined face with like a little child wig and what was she word? Overalls. It was a criminal activity right there.

Speaker 2:

And I hated her character. I'd have to rewatch up to three, two and three that she was in all three. I don't know, I can't remember. It's been too long to see if that's her character, but I did not like her at all. She was my least favorite character. It seemed like they had nothing to do with her besides expressing concern at times to set up for the next few movies. But I did not like understand why she was there besides just being the accomplice, being the right hand man and yeah, so it was. It was a bit of unfortunate. I really hope that she got more of a pop with the actual fans because, like I said, I'm a very loose, casual fan. So my word, take my word, the grain of salt. But yeah, she was my least favorite character, by all means.

Speaker 3:

Like I said before, I mean these movies were never known for their acting. Her acting was never very good. I will say that I felt like her acting was better in this one. I think the script was just better, I think the direction was just better, and so that's why I was kind of more OK with her character. She wasn't as over the top with her anger, because Amanda tends to get very angry very easily in the in the previous films and they kind of subdued that a little bit in this one, which I appreciated. I'm not saying her acting was was still good.

Speaker 3:

It wasn't, and I think, to go off of what Judson said about why she was in this, she was basically in this just because she had been revealed as being his apprentice and so I guess they felt like to not include her, because this does take place between the first and the second one and I guess that's why they felt they needed her in this movie. I don't think she was as bad as Judson made it sound like. I do think the wig made it made her look ridiculous, but again, that's because in the second one she has short hair and so I guess they felt that they had to make her look like she had short hair, but again it just it looked. It looked really really dumb and it kind of showed how much of a budget they did not have for this film, that they couldn't do something better than what they did. Let's go straight to the mid credit scene where they have another cameo of another character that had been revealed as an accomplice, and that is Detective Hoffman. I didn't really care that he was in it either.

Speaker 3:

I again, my big draw was Tobin Bell. My big draw was Jigsaw. I guess I thought it was cool that he was in it, but, just like with the reveal of Amanda, I was like man, he hasn't aged well either, and so I don't know if they're hinting at another in between cool coming up soon, maybe between two and three, I don't know. But I really did enjoy this movie. I know it doesn't really sound like I did, but I think it's probably close to second after the first one, just because storyline acting was a lot better than the previous films and I just, I just really enjoyed what I saw. So, jetson, what would you say? Let's just go ahead and rate this thing one to six stars. What would you give Salton?

Speaker 2:

I'm of two minds where, for a saw movie, this is one of my favorites and, again, take with a grain of salt because I haven't seen all of them and I've forgotten the ones most of the ones that I have seen. But from what I've seen and what I know about it, this is near to the top of the list. But I'm also of the mind where I'm not sure if this is a good movie. I'm going to give this four, four and a half, if you guys, if you guys do have four and a half out of six stars, because all in all, this is a really good saw movie. So for the audiences that are going to go see this, for the saw fans that have been ready for this, they're going to get their cup filled, they're going to have a good time with it.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to give it a solid five, maybe a 5.5, because I'm a saw fan and I had seen every single one. I like how they tied in everything but they didn't tie it too much, which I also appreciated too. They didn't go full on nostalgia for saw fans, but they did just enough to give us that saw fix that we've been wanting since the abysmal spiral. So that is saw 10. Everybody, that is, paul Patrol, saul Patrol, saul 10, all in one episode. Next episode, katie and I will be talking about the original finally an original movie, the Creator, and so I'm excited about that. I know Katie's excited about it. Judson, would you like to end this episode with something having to do with saw?

Speaker 2:

We want to play a game Game over.

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